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#140336 - 01/14/06 08:20 PM Female Validation or Mass Murder?
Da Burglar Offline
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Registered: 01/02/05
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We all know women need validation, to know they are sexually attractive (it is inherently necessary for the survival of the species.) A woman needs to believe she can make a man dispense semen whenever she wants...some women have no doubts about their inherent sexual magnetism and, by extension, fertility (Supermodels, Intelligent Authors like Elizabeth Wurtzel, or any hispanic female aged 14 thru 39.) Porn, however, seems to be a proving ground for women with doubts (or dubious qulaity) regarding their sexual attractiveness, the proverbial "Flawed Beauties", women who are too short, too tall, too lanky, too skinny/thin, too fat/thick, too ghetto, too cracked out, too tweaked out, too strung out etc etc etc.

Consider these examples of artistic expression addressing the issue of female sexuality, preserved for posterity:







Now, when does the validation in the female's mind occur? Is it when she is hired for these scenes? Is it when the first blast of jizz hits her square in the cheek and she thinks AT THAT VERY INSTANT inside her mind "....Yes!! Validation! I'm Sexy!..."? Or when the glob of semen slides past her tonsils and epiglotus, down her esophagus and into her stomach, is that when she feels sexually validated?


....I think not.....I think what we are seeing here in fact is just Mass Murder on an unprecedented scale.
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#140337 - 01/14/06 08:22 PM Re: Female Validation or Mass Murder?
karanox Offline
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Registered: 01/14/06
Posts: 79
Loc: Las Vegas, NV
My validation comes when I get the paycheck. The diploma on my wall has a back balance that needs to be paid off. . .

Kara Nox
http://www.karanox.com
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#140338 - 01/14/06 08:31 PM Re: Female Validation or Mass Murder?
Da Burglar Offline
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Registered: 01/02/05
Posts: 5750
Loc: ATLANTIC CITY
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My validation comes when I get the paycheck. The diploma on my wall has a back balance that needs to be paid off. . .

Kara Nox
http://www.karanox.com




Your honesty and candor is refreshing but does not address the intrinsic biological issue here...if it were merely money, there are other ways to earn, perhaps not as much money as a bunch of porn movies, but still enough to pay off your diploma and without any collateral issues/damage resulting from gratuitous sex preserved forever in various types of media.... something deeper is at work here unless it is just mass spermicide.
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#140339 - 01/14/06 10:12 PM Re: Female Validation or Mass Murder?
karanox Offline
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Registered: 01/14/06
Posts: 79
Loc: Las Vegas, NV
Yeah, there are more ways to make money. But I wouldn't have the days off.

Doing porn isn't a biological thing. It's a way to make a living. If I want validation I talk with my husband, or have sex with a pack of ravenous wolves. I don't drink cum. And getting a cumbath certainly isn't a personal validation, at least not for me.

Sometimes a poem is just a poem.

Kara Nox
http://www.karanox.com

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#140340 - 01/14/06 10:22 PM Re: Female Validation or Mass Murder?
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Yeah, there are more ways to make money. But I wouldn't have the days off.

Doing porn isn't a biological thing. It's a way to make a living. If I want validation I talk with my husband, or have sex with a pack of ravenous wolves. I don't drink cum. And getting a cumbath certainly isn't a personal validation, at least not for me.

Sometimes a poem is just a poem.

Kara Nox
http://www.karanox.com







Why not strip? It isn't that much less and getting a cigar put out on you back by a drunk mexican occasionally is still better then getting 5 loads on your grill by brandon irons and 4 san quentin graduates.
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#140341 - 01/14/06 10:51 PM Re: Female Validation or Mass Murder?
ChickenMaster Offline
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Registered: 07/07/04
Posts: 3178
Kara drinks jizz for cash now; she probably did it for other reasons before that and she will never come to terms with her own duplicitous nature in regards to who she was when she first started. Just pulling shit out of my hat....

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#140342 - 01/15/06 01:44 AM Re: Female Validation or Mass Murder?
Bishop Offline
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Registered: 12/13/03
Posts: 2376
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First allow me to extend a warm welcome to the lovely and talented Ms Knox.The hour and a half we spent on a wrought iron stairwell is burned into my memory forever.
I have to disagree with the core of this thread.I believe that with the insecurities that people have (by nature,women and men)you must already be validated inorder to take your clothes off in public.If you ain't comfortable with self,you never wind up on set.I think that a lot of insecurities arise from self-perceived shortcommings AFTER getting into porn and having to listen to peoples bullshit opinions despite the fact that you were good enough to hire in the first place.(ie you need a boob job)
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#140343 - 01/15/06 02:17 AM Re: Female Validation or Mass Murder?
ChickenMaster Offline
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Registered: 07/07/04
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I have to disagree with the core of this thread.I believe that with the insecurities that people have (by nature,women and men)you must already be validated inorder to take your clothes off in public.If you ain't comfortable with self,you never wind up on set.




Constant validation is the pantomime of the whore. The validation is there but must be continually applied or self-perceived shortcomings do kick in as you said.

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#140344 - 01/15/06 01:48 PM Re: Female Validation or Mass Murder?
karanox Offline
Rob Black's Crack Pipe

Registered: 01/14/06
Posts: 79
Loc: Las Vegas, NV
The only validation that's required of anyone is that which comes from within. That's hard to do, as any psychologist will tell you. (Read Alice Miller's Drama of the Gifted Child.) Porn isn't likely going to validate anyone who doesn't feel the slightest bit validated to begin with.

You're going to find people in every line of work seeking validation, or approval. It's all part of being human.

Kara Nox
http://www.karanox.com
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#140345 - 01/15/06 02:16 PM Re: Female Validation or Mass Murder?
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Registered: 01/09/06
Posts: 304
you're not serious about elizabeth wurtzel being an intelligent author.

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#140346 - 01/15/06 02:48 PM Re: Female Validation or Mass Murder?
Da Burglar Offline
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Registered: 01/02/05
Posts: 5750
Loc: ATLANTIC CITY
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you're not serious about elizabeth wurtzel being an intelligent author.




I am indeed...she has come a long way since her artificially happy days during the first ecstasy craze of the late 80s back at "H". I remember watching her many times during lunch at various dining halls and I always thought she was totally hot. "Slurpie" is now one of the most introspective and interesting female authors of my generation...I am not saying I agree with everything she writes about, but it is definitely interesting. She is an example of a woman who does not need to be blasted by semen as assurance she is sexually viable, if she gets a face bath it is her sincere desire to receive such...which makes it even more hot...what did you read of hers, Prozac nation or Bitch?
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#140347 - 01/15/06 03:28 PM Re: Female Validation or Mass Murder?
The Ghost Is Toast Offline
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Registered: 10/21/05
Posts: 2710
I saw Wurtzel in conversation with Ruby Wax, Bret Easton Ellis and Carrie Fisher on a TV show here in the UK, and in comparison to those three she came across as dimwitted, shallow, and with nothing of any real worth to contribute...she also seemed to talk only about herself. I was distinctly unimpressed with her, as as such have avoided her books because she struck me as the classic 'all hype, no substance' media darling.

Which reminds me I've got to pick up 'Lunar Park' sometime soon....

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#140348 - 01/15/06 03:45 PM Re: Female Validation or Mass Murder?
asdf Offline
Max Hardcore Prison Bitch

Registered: 01/09/06
Posts: 304
i've read almost all of wurtzel's work because i've had a lot of women in my life who impressed hack 'feminist' writing on me at a young and passive age. i don't deny that she's a babe, in fact, i think it's one of the only reasons her books have sold so well. i would even say she uses her looks as a crutch for her weak writing, which is just tacky in the literary scope. a more honest title for her books would be "memoirs of a broken hot girl" - her addiction-saturated sardonic wit is all too common in female writers who have nothing else of interest to write about but abuse that they suffered. i find it funny that you would point to wurtzel as being an example of a woman who transcends validation when her whole career is an almost desperate search for validation that cloaks itself in aggressive histrionics and nice tits or what she would call "tragic beauty" and what i would call "JAP narcissism"

she's obtuse and long-winded and raw in a way which isn't laudable, and her arrogance overshadows almost anything of value she contributes to the discussion of gender, sexism, and stereotypes because it is inauthentic. i don't deny that bitch and prozac nation were interesting in a way abortions or thalidomide victims are interesting, i just think that labelling her as an intelligent author is a bit of a longshot. then again, there are hordes of teenage girls who will agree with your assessment of her hot brilliance.

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#140349 - 01/15/06 04:03 PM Re: Female Validation or Mass Murder?
jamesn Offline
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Registered: 04/17/04
Posts: 6005
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thalidomide victims are interesting


at least teratogenesis sticks around when it's ugly, i don't think wurtzel's going to have much of a literary half-life.

there are plenty of hot chicks who can't write, she's just chosen to "can't write" as a career and has a great publicist.

just my opinion, same as the rubicon of bad writing was crossed sometime in 1922 in paris, everything else's made me poop my pants.
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#140350 - 01/15/06 05:54 PM Re: Female Validation or Mass Murder?
Da Burglar Offline
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Registered: 01/02/05
Posts: 5750
Loc: ATLANTIC CITY
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i've read almost all of wurtzel's work because i've had a lot of women in my life who impressed hack 'feminist' writing on me at a young and passive age. i don't deny that she's a babe, in fact, i think it's one of the only reasons her books have sold so well. i would even say she uses her looks as a crutch for her weak writing, which is just tacky in the literary scope. a more honest title for her books would be "memoirs of a broken hot girl" - her addiction-saturated sardonic wit is all too common in female writers who have nothing else of interest to write about but abuse that they suffered. i find it funny that you would point to wurtzel as being an example of a woman who transcends validation when her whole career is an almost desperate search for validation that cloaks itself in aggressive histrionics and nice tits or what she would call "tragic beauty" and what i would call "JAP narcissism"

she's obtuse and long-winded and raw in a way which isn't laudable, and her arrogance overshadows almost anything of value she contributes to the discussion of gender, sexism, and stereotypes because it is inauthentic. i don't deny that bitch and prozac nation were interesting in a way abortions or thalidomide victims are interesting, i just think that labelling her as an intelligent author is a bit of a longshot. then again, there are hordes of teenage girls who will agree with your assessment of her hot brilliance.




That's an excellent reply, but I disagree that it is limited to merely teenage girls thinking Liz is brilliant. She has a pretty staunch following amongst women 30-40 years old who are single, professionally successful yet underachieving, sexually frustrated, chemically saturated and childless...oh, and clinically depressed... (at least that is what I remember reading on the last article about her being the latest, hottest spokesperson for Women suffering from Depression. What is fucked is if you listen to her, she flat out states she never wanted to write about depression, she just wanted to tell her story, which is a hallmark of a great / gifted writer, to be shanghaied and shunted along some thematic railroad you never fucking intended...)

This thread was about (roundabout) the symbolic representation of female sexuality manifesting itself via male ejaculations....or not, whereby it is just murdering a lot of sperm. It's subjective. However, If you read some of Liz's quotes and juxtapose them with the images of Delilah and Kelly in my original post, you might see why I casually mentioned her as a example of a woman who would NOT necessarily need to be doused in semen to feel sexy, but WOULD accept her objectification (Ejaculation Nation) simply because she wants it or because it mirrors how she feels in one of her manic highs or lows...which really is what I always figured a woman wearing 8 loads of cum would fall into, complete ecstasy or total depression.

Sample Liz Quote(s): "Insanity is knowing that what you're doing is completely idiotic, but still, somehow, you just can't stop it."

"...occasionally I wished I could walk through a picture window and have the sharp, broken shards slash me to ribbons so I would finally look like I felt."


James, did the chicks ever have "gold card wars" when you were there?
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#140351 - 01/15/06 07:06 PM Re: Female Validation or Mass Murder?
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Registered: 07/05/04
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Quote:

Quote:

i've read almost all of wurtzel's work because i've had a lot of women in my life who impressed hack 'feminist' writing on me at a young and passive age. i don't deny that she's a babe, in fact, i think it's one of the only reasons her books have sold so well. i would even say she uses her looks as a crutch for her weak writing, which is just tacky in the literary scope. a more honest title for her books would be "memoirs of a broken hot girl" - her addiction-saturated sardonic wit is all too common in female writers who have nothing else of interest to write about but abuse that they suffered. i find it funny that you would point to wurtzel as being an example of a woman who transcends validation when her whole career is an almost desperate search for validation that cloaks itself in aggressive histrionics and nice tits or what she would call "tragic beauty" and what i would call "JAP narcissism"

she's obtuse and long-winded and raw in a way which isn't laudable, and her arrogance overshadows almost anything of value she contributes to the discussion of gender, sexism, and stereotypes because it is inauthentic. i don't deny that bitch and prozac nation were interesting in a way abortions or thalidomide victims are interesting, i just think that labelling her as an intelligent author is a bit of a longshot. then again, there are hordes of teenage girls who will agree with your assessment of her hot brilliance.




That's an excellent reply, but I disagree that it is limited to merely teenage girls thinking Liz is brilliant. She has a pretty staunch following amongst women 30-40 years old who are single, professionally successful yet underachieving, sexually frustrated, chemically saturated and childless...oh, and clinically depressed... (at least that is what I remember reading on the last article about her being the latest, hottest spokesperson for Women suffering from Depression. What is fucked is if you listen to her, she flat out states she never wanted to write about depression, she just wanted to tell her story, which is a hallmark of a great / gifted writer, to be shanghaied and shunted along some thematic railroad you never fucking intended...)

This thread was about (roundabout) the symbolic representation of female sexuality manifesting itself via male ejaculations....or not, whereby it is just murdering a lot of sperm. It's subjective. However, If you read some of Liz's quotes and juxtapose them with the images of Delilah and Kelly in my original post, you might see why I casually mentioned her as a example of a woman who would NOT necessarily need to be doused in semen to feel sexy, but WOULD accept her objectification (Ejaculation Nation) simply because she wants it or because it mirrors how she feels in one of her manic highs or lows...which really is what I always figured a woman wearing 8 loads of cum would fall into, complete ecstasy or total depression.

Sample Liz Quote(s): "Insanity is knowing that what you're doing is completely idiotic, but still, somehow, you just can't stop it."

"...occasionally I wished I could walk through a picture window and have the sharp, broken shards slash me to ribbons so I would finally look like I felt."


James, did the chicks ever have "gold card wars" when you were there?



Ok guys, enough with the obscure references of the hoity-toity new-age mystical transcendental authors. Only Steve Ditko and Stan Lee references from here on out. I'm getting tired of googling names to get the references.
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#140352 - 01/15/06 08:38 PM Re: Female Validation or Mass Murder?
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Bukkake Boy

Registered: 04/21/03
Posts: 675
Loc: Belgrade
Cassandra nailed Liz on her pointy little head. She was handy with a surfboard when the Zeitgeist was at high tide. But iike most of her ilk who first tasted fame in the 1980s, she only had half a song-and-dance to her game.

(I humbly apologize for the mangled metaphors ... it's late, and I am cold. I dare say Cassandra shows more intellect and prose talent that Wurtzel ever mustered)

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#140353 - 01/15/06 09:41 PM Re: Female Validation or Mass Murder?
John Floofin Offline
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Registered: 02/04/05
Posts: 3499
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Ok guys, enough with the obscure references of the hoity-toity new-age mystical transcendental authors. Only Steve Ditko and Stan Lee references from here on out. I'm getting tired of googling names to get the references.




Yeah, they're two peas in a maroon pod. I just wanna know, are Salinger, Vonnegut, and Hemmingway out, according to your parameters? I've found them to be the class of the contemporary writing that I have enjoyed. Don't anyone blow their asses out in response and disrupt Burgs godawful sperm-swallow thread again, I was just wondering.
* SRI's might be more trouble than they're worth, IMO.

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#140354 - 01/15/06 10:15 PM Re: Female Validation or Mass Murder?
asdf Offline
Max Hardcore Prison Bitch

Registered: 01/09/06
Posts: 304
ass: blown

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#140355 - 01/15/06 10:15 PM Re: Female Validation or Mass Murder?
Da Burglar Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 01/02/05
Posts: 5750
Loc: ATLANTIC CITY
Quote:

Cassandra nailed Liz on her pointy little head. She was handy with a surfboard when the Zeitgeist was at high tide. But iike most of her ilk who first tasted fame in the 1980s, she only had half a song-and-dance to her game.

(I humbly apologize for the mangled metaphors ... it's late, and I am cold. I dare say Cassandra shows more intellect and prose talent that Wurtzel ever mustered)




Yes, cassandra has me thoroughly intrigued, and the great thing is I havent even seen her nude yet, let alone get Dp'd or swallow 6 loads of cum, so I can gush about her intellect without being accused by Chickenmaster of "defiling the sanctity of the Monkey cage" with fanboyism. Right now Cassandra is just another beautiful lethal creature in the XPT Monkey Cage/Jungle who I can admire and respect....


...damn her last post gave me wood
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#140356 - 01/16/06 12:51 PM Re: Female Validation or Mass Murder?
John Floofin Offline
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Registered: 02/04/05
Posts: 3499
Loc: The Dirty: 480
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...damn her last post gave me wood




Yeah, she's on my radar now too.

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#140357 - 07/18/08 09:51 AM Re: Female Validation or Mass Murder?
Da Burglar Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 01/02/05
Posts: 5750
Loc: ATLANTIC CITY
*Bump* Back when Cassandra first joined and kicked ass...who knew that cereal lunch had the real staying power?
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#140358 - 07/18/08 02:08 PM Re: Female Validation or Mass Murder?
Bluecipher Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 06/09/03
Posts: 5093
Loc:
Did Kara Nox retire?
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#140359 - 07/18/08 02:33 PM Re: Female Validation or Mass Murder?
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch

Registered: 03/12/08
Posts: 189
Loc: Edmonton, AB
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Did Kara Nox retire?




If I remember correctly her husband sent out a message from her MySpace account stating that she just up and walked away from everything, him included.
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#140360 - 07/19/08 03:57 AM Re: Female Validation or Mass Murder?
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Wow. She came off as so self-assured and then, BAM!, let out with the surprise.
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