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#503706 - 02/02/11 07:18 PM NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
duckduckgoose Offline
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Didn't see this mentioned here, but thought it would be of note to XPT members and lurkers -- interesting article in NY Magazine a few days ago.

From the article (image credit : NY Magazine) --



I had always sort of suspected some of the major producers were behind tube sites, but this confirmed it far beyond what I would have imagined. Anyone working in the industry who complains about scenes being downloaded for free should ask themselves if the companies they're working for aren't helping make it happen.


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#503707 - 02/02/11 07:22 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
LouCypher Offline
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Brandon should have something to say about this topic.
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#503708 - 02/02/11 09:43 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
Jerkules Offline
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I just received Brandon's quote, "Regular or Biggie size". Unless he was referring to the Carmella Bing thread.
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#503709 - 02/03/11 12:46 AM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
Brandon_Iron Offline
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It's flattering that many "users" consider my content worthy of being uploaded to some sites alongside the works of so many other dedicated professionals.

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#503710 - 02/03/11 12:53 AM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
Fiend Offline
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Quote:

It's flattering that many "users" consider my content worthy of being uploaded to some sites alongside the works of so many other dedicated professionals.




You peaked with Slap Happy. After that you should have retired and slunk off to menial job hell and an occasional appearance at adult conventions where you could rub Ron Jeremy's hairy beer belly for luck.
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#503711 - 02/03/11 01:06 AM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
Brandon_Iron Offline
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I make my own luck. Unfortunately, I seem to make bad luck. Now, please excuse me while I celebrate Hillary Scott's birthday.


(It took me two clicks on one of the above-mentioned sites to find a scene from this movie. Gee, thanks!)


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#503712 - 02/03/11 02:51 AM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
Cum Stains Offline
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nah for realz, i'm impressed ny mag nailed down the truth porn's been afraid of spelling out. the news isn't just how internet killed the dvd star. tube sites have become much more than a piracy issue. porn's issue became something else- shielding a dirty secret. what was common knowledge within porn was kept from mainstream as to not conflict with porn's desire for mainstream acceptance. the secret? that porn is an industry that turned on itself and ended up biting its own tail. quite a conflict for such a society of outcasts, isnt it? always a fine line as to how much truth should be revealed to keep it glamorous enough so it's just a business like regular hollywood and accecptable so its safe like everything else all american but raw enough so there's still that taboo cache of danger to draw a crowd.

i nom this article crossover star of the year
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#503713 - 02/03/11 03:06 AM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
Mark_J Offline
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next you're going to say steve hirsch playing up tila tequila "trying to stop her sex video from getting out" is P.R. circus antics and she's in on it, please please say it ain't so i can't handle any more bad news right now.

excuse me while I preemptively bury my head into a pillow and call mother.

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#503714 - 02/03/11 06:47 AM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
ivorenginedriver Offline
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Registered: 09/19/05
Posts: 3576
Loc: Baltimore, MD
Is Brazzers like Saturn devouring his children? Tube sites not merely piracy, rather they are part of a new web-based corporate model. And how many traditional porn purveyors can survive in this Brace New World of Porn?

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#503715 - 02/03/11 06:56 AM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
Bon Vivant Offline
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Quote:

Is Brazzers like Saturn devouring his children? Tube sites not merely piracy, rather they are part of a new web-based corporate model. And how many traditional porn purveyors can survive in this Brace New World of Porn?



The only way they can survive is by offering something better than the Tube sites at a reasonable price -- iTunes for porn. High quality, DRM free h.264 *downloads*. $0.99 per scene, $2.99 per entire video. Same encyclopedic selection as the Tube sites.

Do it or die -- that's the long term choice. Otherwise the only survivors will be companies like Brazzers that play both sides of the street -- but if everyone tries that approach there will be such a glut of Tube sites no one will be making any money and those operating as pure pirates -- not producing any content of their own, thus with the lowest costs, would end up winning.

iTunes for porn or death -- those are the choices, porn industry. Wake up!
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#503716 - 02/03/11 07:46 AM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
Jerkules Offline
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Porn nothing but infomercial for hookers any more. Case in point: Scene up Tuesday and Available to whore mongers Wednesday. No one hides doing privates anymore. As time goes on, the dynamic will continue to change. Doing a scene will be worth more to the whore than it will be to the producer. And the more tube sites its on, the better it is for the PW.
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#503717 - 02/03/11 08:46 AM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
ivorenginedriver Offline
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Devolution of porn into a front for high-end prostitution? Seems to be the case, so let the guys who call themselves PSE hobbyists (johns who overpay for pussy, of whom Charlie Sheen is merely the foremost) subsidize this Brave New World. At the end of the day, tube sites provide free porn, and if the quality ain't so hot, the price is surely right. The whores are stripped of the illusion that they are somehow "actresses", but some of the young whores seem to be taking ownership of their whoredom, so it's all good. OTOH porn purveyors will have to transform themselves into lean, mean porn machines in order to survive in the post-tube site environment.

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#503718 - 02/03/11 09:41 AM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
Northrop Offline
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Quote:

$0.99 per scene, $2.99 per entire video. Same encyclopedic selection as the Tube sites.




Seriously, $30/month for one group of sites is pure hilarity.

Then they sit back and bitch how come no one pays...

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#503719 - 02/03/11 03:11 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
Steezo Offline
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Quote:

porn is an industry that turned on itself and ended up biting its own tail.




Ouroborass-to-mouth.
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#503720 - 02/03/11 05:39 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
Barry the Pirate Offline
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Loc: Great Pacific Northwest
Quote:

Seems to be the case, so let the guys who call themselves PSE hobbyists (johns who overpay for pussy, of whom Charlie Sheen is merely the foremost) subsidize this Brave New World.




You know, guys like fast Eddie and AC Cream put in their time in the trenches, toting that bag and lifting that bale, and some neophyte like young Sheen comes along and steals their thunder. Sad. Just sad.

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#503721 - 02/03/11 06:55 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
drwells Offline
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Registered: 03/27/06
Posts: 12
Quote:

I make my own luck. Unfortunately, I seem to make bad luck.




I'm stealing that one.

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#503722 - 02/03/11 08:38 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
Brandon_Iron Offline
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Another witticism usurped. Just my luck.

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#503723 - 02/04/11 01:19 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
xvod Offline
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Registered: 01/02/04
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Quote:

The only way they can survive is by offering something better than the Tube sites at a reasonable price -- iTunes for porn. High quality, DRM free h.264 *downloads*. $0.99 per scene, $2.99 per entire video. Same encyclopedic selection as the Tube sites.

Do it or die -- that's the long term choice. Otherwise the only survivors will be companies like Brazzers that play both sides of the street -- but if everyone tries that approach there will be such a glut of Tube sites no one will be making any money and those operating as pure pirates -- not producing any content of their own, thus with the lowest costs, would end up winning.

iTunes for porn or death -- those are the choices, porn industry. Wake up!




I beg to differ...

We've been working on THIS for a while and are getting ready to launch in March. So, if you want to thrive, get in early.

This will put an end to the tube sites and pay per minute.

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#503724 - 02/04/11 01:57 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
Mark_J Offline
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if you want to thrive get a .com domain

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#503725 - 02/04/11 03:31 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
xvod Offline
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.com, .net, .org, .tv, .xxx

Its all the same. Surfers don't give a fuck where the search engines find you.

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#503726 - 02/04/11 03:57 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
cqd Offline
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Now does your service exclude viewing on a computer? My television is a shit box and I rarely use it. Also, it's in my living room.

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#503727 - 02/04/11 04:03 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
xvod Offline
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Loc: CA
It's TV anywhere.
Any device, up to four devices per household.

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#503728 - 02/04/11 04:27 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
cqd Offline
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So I could get a subscription from you that I could watch on my computer as well as my television? Most of the TV I watch is video out from my graphics card.
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#503729 - 02/04/11 04:33 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
backdoorman Offline
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Posts: 9782
Loc: Hillbilly Holler
So why don't you tell us what it's about instead asking for all the fucking info like email and phone number and then sending a fucking link to email. I don't trust you as far as I can spit !
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#503730 - 02/04/11 04:44 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
LouCypher Offline
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i realize its "emerging technology" and probably in its earliest stage xvod but that page you're trying to use to sell is shit. yeah, SHIT.
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#503731 - 02/04/11 06:50 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
xvod Offline
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Loc: CA
We ask for your info because we want to collect sales lead info, so we can contact you to get you set up.

OK. So you think the page is shit. It shows exactly how consumers will be watching your movies. What are you looking for? Would a gaping asshole make it better?


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#503732 - 02/04/11 09:08 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
Barry the Pirate Offline
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Registered: 12/09/08
Posts: 8433
Loc: Great Pacific Northwest
Quote:

Would a gaping asshole make it better?






it usually does.
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#503733 - 02/05/11 06:13 AM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
LouCypher Offline
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Quote:

We ask for your info because we want to collect sales lead info, so we can contact you to get you set up.

OK. So you think the page is shit. It shows exactly how consumers will be watching your movies. What are you looking for? Would a gaping asshole make it better?





heh.. no gape needed. its not that bad.
conqs posts in this thread are a good place to start if you're looking to provide info to the consumer.i'm sure you'll answer all those questions he asked many more times.
also, people dont want to be emailed info. they want tech specs and pricing no more than 2 clicks away.

like i said i'm sure things are just getting rolling and will continue to evolve and improve. im actually interested in learning more about it hence my frustration with the brick wall that is your sell page.

btw,i have no idea what bdms problem with it is. it seems personal.
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#503734 - 02/05/11 08:00 AM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
backdoorman Offline
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Registered: 09/01/08
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Tired of giving out my fucking phone number and email to every cocksucker in the world trying to sell the next best thing to the shirt pocket ! Facebook, myspace, fill out a card, give to charity and they give your number to every con artist in the country, actually buy something you want and they want your personal info, ad infinitum. It's fucking ridiculous. If you have something to sell I want to want to buy it not be another fucking victim ! Fuck !!!!!!!
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#503735 - 02/05/11 10:22 AM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
charin Offline
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I agree. I don't want to hear about "rebates". Give me the price out the door. Cash sale. I never send in warranty cards. I didn't sign on for your advertising campaign, I just bought your product. My money didn't come with strings.

Jesus Christ, the car dealership hounded me, so did GM. I bought a truck from you, I didn't commit to a long term relationship. Leave me the fuck alone.

Quote:

We ask for your info because we want to collect sales lead info, so we can contact you to get you set up.




Quote:






So, you withhold product information. No sale, and fuck every bit of you. You are both a dumb ass and an asshole.

What if I don't want your shit after I look at the info? I still get "contacted"? How often? How? Fuck you.


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#503736 - 02/05/11 11:17 AM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
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Quote:

So, you withhold product information. No sale, and fuck every bit of you. You are both a dumb ass and an asshole.

What if I don't want your shit after I look at the info? I still get "contacted"? How often? How? Fuck you.





I rarely agree with Chuck on anything, but when he's right, he's spot on.

Assemble a finished product. describe, in detail its features. Explain exactly how and why your product is superior to anything else available. And, most importantly: Have it available to street.

Maybe then you'll have some basis for asking for contact info. Not before.

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#503737 - 02/05/11 01:07 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
xvod Offline
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Registered: 01/02/04
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Here's the deal...

I want your info because I'm gonna call you every day - at dinner. But, I'm not going to do it to sell you anything. I'm gonna do it just to say "hi."

Just kidding.

I can describe in detail the features right here.

1. Consumers subscribe.
2. Subscribers watch your movies.
3. You get paid.

Pretty simple. It's better for consumers because they get to watch on any one of four devices they activate and it's better for studios because they make more money without doing anything more than calling Fedex to pick up a box of DVDs. It's also better for studios because consumers won't have to pirate because it's easy, there's a great selection and it's reasonably priced - just like subscribing to HBO.




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#503738 - 02/05/11 01:12 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
backdoorman Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 09/01/08
Posts: 9782
Loc: Hillbilly Holler
Roku ?
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#503739 - 02/05/11 01:14 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
xvod Offline
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Registered: 01/02/04
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Loc: CA
Quote:

Roku ?




Coming to the Channel Store later this summer.
Completing development this month.

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#503740 - 02/05/11 01:48 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
backdoorman Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 09/01/08
Posts: 9782
Loc: Hillbilly Holler
Now that's info I can use. Just don't agree to let them censor it !!!!!! I subscribed briefly to Big Star and some of their "hard core" offerings only to find out it was all soft porn and shitty as fuck.
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#503741 - 02/05/11 02:02 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
cqd Offline
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Posts: 4795
All of that makes sense but to be clear here you aren't marketing this tech to someone like me who uses their computer and video out from the computer straight to the tv to watch porn?

For what I just described tube sites work perfectly fine.

I get the idea that people want to watch porn on their televisions but the tech savvy amongst us already do that.

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#503742 - 02/05/11 03:18 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
backdoorman Offline
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Registered: 09/01/08
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Why the fuck does he need all my info up front if it's going to be on ROKU later. I can always subscribe through it. Asking people if there is a market for streaming porn is like asking if the ocean is wet !
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#503743 - 02/05/11 04:01 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
xvod Offline
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Registered: 01/02/04
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Quote:

Why the fuck does he need all my info up front if it's going to be on ROKU later. I can always subscribe through it. Asking people if there is a market for streaming porn is like asking if the ocean is wet !




I don't need consumer info now, because you're right, you'll be able to sign up later. The heads up was to studios, as we are currently working on HD encoding for a general March launch.

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#503744 - 02/05/11 05:00 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
backdoorman Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 09/01/08
Posts: 9782
Loc: Hillbilly Holler
Do you have a general idea of subscription levels/fees ?
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#503745 - 02/05/11 06:25 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
freestylah Offline
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Registered: 12/28/07
Posts: 4856
Loc: The 4th International
Quote:

Here's the deal...

I want your info because I'm gonna call you every day - at dinner. But, I'm not going to do it to sell you anything. I'm gonna do it just to say "hi."

Just kidding.

I can describe in detail the features right here.

1. Consumers subscribe.
2. Subscribers watch your movies.
3. You get paid.

Pretty simple. It's better for consumers because they get to watch on any one of four devices they activate and it's better for studios because they make more money without doing anything more than calling Fedex to pick up a box of DVDs. It's also better for studios because consumers won't have to pirate because it's easy, there's a great selection and it's reasonably priced - just like subscribing to HBO.





I still don't know how it works. So you can ram your 'service' up your chute.

Btw, I always use this number (305-394-0037), if and when I give one.
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#503746 - 02/05/11 07:27 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
Barry the Pirate Offline
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Registered: 12/09/08
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Loc: Great Pacific Northwest
Quote:


Btw, I always use this number (305-394-0037), if and when I give one.




And my phone won't stop ringing. STYLAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
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#503747 - 02/05/11 08:32 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
xvod Offline
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Registered: 01/02/04
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Loc: CA
Quote:

Do you have a general idea of subscription levels/fees ?




Opening package: Preferred $29.95 - Unlimited Streaming Rentals
About twice the monthly of HBO, but a lot more fun.

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#503748 - 02/06/11 11:54 AM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
Barry the Pirate Offline
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Registered: 12/09/08
Posts: 8433
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Quote:

Quote:

Do you have a general idea of subscription levels/fees ?




Opening package: Preferred $29.95 - Unlimited Streaming Rentals
About twice the monthly of HBO, but a lot more fun.




$30 a month? Yeah, that'll stop the pirates.
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#503749 - 02/07/11 10:34 AM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
xvod Offline
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Loc: CA
What's that???
Three trips over to Starbucks for a Trenta and Scone.
BFD...


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#503750 - 02/07/11 06:58 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
backdoorman Offline
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#503751 - 02/07/11 07:28 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
Barry the Pirate Offline
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Registered: 12/09/08
Posts: 8433
Loc: Great Pacific Northwest
Quote:

What's that???
Three trips over to Starbucks for a Trenta and Scone.
BFD...






Fantastic marketing. Concerns about pricing and your answer is "BFD". Did you go to the same business as Desi and Monica?

I'm not shitting on your product. I think your pricing is too much for the service. What was the service that you could DL vids from for like $15 a month? I'm blanking on the name of it, but it was the shit. Dl'd what I wanted, put them on a stick drive and plugged the drive into my WD TVPlus. No renting, I keep the ones I like. Half the price. Even at half the price I'm not interested, because I'd just be renting.
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#503752 - 02/07/11 07:30 PM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
Mark_J Offline
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Registered: 10/02/08
Posts: 2058
bdm what do you want him to do commit suicide?

that FyreTV site is actually a halfway decent example of the right way to do what piss & vinegar xvod appears to be trying to accomplish, in terms of design and getting the point across, and you know not looking like a typo domain the way it stands now- which, with the economy the way it is who says 'yes' to that, except someone with an I.Q. that's moron-certified?

now just do it better, do it cheaper, and do it three years ago.

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#503753 - 02/08/11 06:18 AM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
Bon Vivant Offline
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Registered: 05/21/07
Posts: 305
Quote:

Quote:

The only way they can survive is by offering something better than the Tube sites at a reasonable price -- iTunes for porn. High quality, DRM free h.264 *downloads*. $0.99 per scene, $2.99 per entire video. Same encyclopedic selection as the Tube sites.

Do it or die -- that's the long term choice. Otherwise the only survivors will be companies like Brazzers that play both sides of the street -- but if everyone tries that approach there will be such a glut of Tube sites no one will be making any money and those operating as pure pirates -- not producing any content of their own, thus with the lowest costs, would end up winning.

iTunes for porn or death -- those are the choices, porn industry. Wake up!




I beg to differ...

We've been working on THIS for a while and are getting ready to launch in March. So, if you want to thrive, get in early.

This will put an end to the tube sites and pay per minute.



Nobody wants to pay subscription fees. iTunes, which dominates 75%+ of the market has proven that over and over and over. You have to sell stuff TO KEEP, reasonably priced as above. Ask which porn consumer wants their porn to all disappear the moment they stop paying the monthly fee.

And $30 is an absolute joke -- remember you are competing with FREE. That's why tracks on iTunes are $0.99 -- they too have to compete with free.

I can see that a huge hunk of the porn industry is still detached from reality.
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#503754 - 02/08/11 06:58 AM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
ivorenginedriver Offline
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I agree with the points raised by BV.

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#503755 - 02/08/11 07:28 AM Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
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No not at all. I'm actually interested. It just feels like he wants his dick sucked for any useful info. Ain't gonna do it.
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