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#503756 - 02/08/11 09:50 AM
Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 01/02/04
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Loc: CA
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Here's the problem with the $0.99 iTunes model.
It's called bank service charges. They run anywhere from $0.15 - $0.30 per transaction plus 3-5%. That means a movie/clip that runs $0.99, nets you $0.81 before you've covered the even the bandwidth and sent a reasonable royalty over to the studios. Even if you break out movies per scene, what studio wants to earn $0.10-$0.20 a scene?
As it winds up, the banker makes all the money. And, I know you guys don't want to throw even more money into some asshole bankers pocket.
Also, been there done that. We canned mpegster.com, where people paid $4 - $5 only when they watched a movie, because bank charges ate up all the profits AND when you throw in a $30 chargeback fee on a micro-charge, you're screwed.
Remember, porn isn't iTunes. They probably get 1/2% chargebacks, where Joe Blow will download everything you have and charge it back with his credit card company. For that reason alone, you can't go the $0.99 route.
Edited by xvod (02/08/11 09:53 AM)
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#503757 - 02/08/11 10:42 AM
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Registered: 04/18/03
Posts: 9174
Loc: Penalty Box
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They probably get 1/2% chargebacks, where Joe Blow will download everything you have and charge it back with his credit card company.
I had no idea he was doing this. I, for one, will never hire him again and I suggest he be blacklisted from the industry.
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#503758 - 02/08/11 11:34 AM
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 10/30/06
Posts: 3812
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The only thing that's going to put an end to tube sites and Manwin are a few strategically placed bullets, not another subscription site. The good old days are over.
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#503760 - 02/08/11 05:54 PM
Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 698
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You're a bloody imbecile...
Wanker.
So, in your infinite wisdom, what's the number consumers are willing to pay for simple "turn on your TV" access to high quality porn? Keep in mind that here in the US, if you want to watch on-demand porn at home on TV it's around $20/day.
Meanwhile, for a dollar a day, you can watch as much as you want by subscribing to XXXtelevision. Seems like a bargain when you compare $1/hour to $1/day.
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#503761 - 02/08/11 06:00 PM
Re: NY Magazine Article : The Geek Kings of Smut
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 03/14/06
Posts: 589
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And if you're worried that the bank takes too much of the cut, negotiate a better deal. There's more than one bank too choose from. You're too lazy and/or stupid to figure out that you better take a little margin and a decent percentage of the market than a big margin and no percentage at all. FYI: 0% of 0 = 0!
With respect, a large percentage of payment processors forbid adult businesses from using their services. It seems to be less about "morality" issues on the part of the shareholders as it is about chargebacks and fraud by the customers. Adult companies have minimal (if any) leverage in the negotiating process to get better rates. I've heard of some people going to China to get better rates recently, with the same level of accountability, legal adherence, and oversight we have come to expect from everything else that comes from that place.
I'm not saying xvod's new VOD business is great or anything (could be - who knows) -- what I'm saying is that adult payment processing sucks (and always has), and that anyone starting a substantial offering will probably need to pair it with the (equally substantial) development of their own payment processor which they also hedge with non-adult payments from traditional businesses in order to get better rates.
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#503763 - 02/09/11 04:30 PM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 698
Loc: CA
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Main question remains, as was stated above: Can I keep what I pay for or do I have to continue paying for the same stuff over and over again?
Just like with HBO or any other subscription service, as long as you are a subscriber - you can keep watching whatever you want as many times as you want.
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As for the banks. I'm not nearly up to speed on US banking ethics, but it can't be too hard to find a payment service willing to work with you. Think outside the box: there are Albanian, Ukranian, Brazilian banks; they most probably offer also some kind of payment service. Somebody will be naive enough to work with xvod new enterprise, porn or not, fraudulent or not.
Unless you want to work with a 3rd party processor who'll gouge you for 15%, you have limited options in the US. Anybody on this board handling transaction processing will tell you that the rates I quoted above are a bargain.
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#503765 - 02/14/11 09:43 AM
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Registered: 02/12/11
Posts: 16
Loc: Miami, FL and the cloud
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Is this you ?
Nope, that's us. No idea who that person is. We are the makers of FyreTV and the Fyre BoXXX. Happy to answer any questions you may have.
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#503766 - 02/14/11 04:17 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/01/08
Posts: 9782
Loc: Hillbilly Holler
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I started a Q and A thread for you . ^
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#503767 - 02/26/11 07:49 PM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 06/13/06
Posts: 611
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No one caught the Gia mention in the same issue? Ron, 27, an architecture student, met his girlfriend when they were both undergrads. She goes to school in another city, and Ron says that for the past couple of years, he’s had weekly “dates” with his favorite porn stars, which he looks forward to all day and even showers and shaves for, as though preparing for a live-action rendezvous. “Mondays are for Gia Jordan,” he says.source: He's just not that into anyone
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#503768 - 02/26/11 08:23 PM
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 09/19/05
Posts: 3576
Loc: Baltimore, MD
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The due pretends like he is going out on a date with Gia Jordan before viewing her performances. There but for the grace of God go I. That's not Schadenfreude, is it?
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