ah, torture's been considered naughty for a few decades but brutality works. did anyone think we don't torture the fuck out of juiced-in priosoners? pretty much every country with a standing army does the same.

when you can take away someone's invioliable rights(like health care) and some of their fingers in exchange for information that saves a major city, you need to go ahead and commit a crime against humanity.

torturing people is down to a science for most countries-the best thing i've ever read is the atlantic's cover story on the state of torture in the westernized world. it's good, i think it came out last winter-spring if anyone wants ideas of what to do should they drive by sportswami in a van full of guys named vladimir or rami.